Heavily influenced by Racetraitor, with Alex Smith on Vocals, Carlton Smith on Drums, Kete on Guitar. Very grimy disrhytmic violent hardcore as I remember. Like RentAmerica known for argueing and speaking between songs. I remember Carlton argueing with Chris from RentAmerica about the primacy of racism v/s economic priveledge in developing a correct class analisys in the US. Didnt sound like metal or grind or hardcore for that matter, more like a wall of noise, damn! Behold the Pale horse is also the title of a book.